Women in their 30s are more attractive than women in their 20s.

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Women in their 30s are more attractive than women in their 20s.

As a bisexual woman in her late 20s, I have to say that I have a much stronger preference for women in their 30s than women in their 20s.

Women in their 20s are beautiful, of course. This isn't a post about bashing women in their 20s (hell, I am a woman in her 20s).

I want to take a moment to appreciate the beauty of 30+ women.
We live in a culture that is so hard on women simply for aging. Search on Google or YouTube "why you shouldn't date a woman over 30" and you'll come up with thousands of results. This is a topic that has been extensively discussed in redpill/manosphere spaces for years. Their main reasons for hating women over 30 is the belief that 30+ are all fat, ugly, infertile, undesirable, "cannot be trained and molded" etc.

In terms of physical appearance, I find that women who remain unmarried tend to look better in their 30s than women who are dating or married to low value men. Being in a relationship with a toxic/lazy man is stressful and may understandably lead to weight gain and premature aging. This is why you see so many women glow up when they leave their shitty boyfriends. It's not the woman's age that's making her ugly, it's her toxic manchild dragging her down.

Second, I find that women tend to level up their appearance as they get older. The older you are, the more money you have, and the more experience you have developing your fashion sense and makeup skills. I look at pictures of myself in my late teens and early 20s and I cringe at how badly I used to apply makeup, and how I used to wear cheap "fast fashion" trends that didn't even flatter my body type or skin tone. Now that I'm a grownup, I can afford better quality clothes that actually fit my body, and I choose timeless classic pieces with colors that compliment my skin undertone (20 y/o me be like "what is color theory?" 😂). My makeup application has gotten more skilled and elegant, too. That's what I love about 30+ women, they have more money and knowledge to put together their own signature style.

Another thing I love about 30+ women is the emotional maturity, confidence, and knowing what they want. In my personal (and somewhat limited) experiences dating other women, I find that women in their early/mid 20s are more unsure of themselves, their lives a little less stable, and can sometimes waffle a bit (harder to tell if they like me). Their emotional maturity is low (in an age appropriate way) because they're at that experimental point in their lives where they're figuring things out, and that's okay, it's just not my preference when dating.

Women who are older than me often have this wonderfully unshakeable self-confidence. It's just so damn sexy. They are more emotionally mature, their lives are more stable, and because they've already been through the experimentation phase, they've figured out what they want. I love how they are more direct, no bullshit, just cut to the chase. There's not as much uncertainty in their feelings for you. If they like you, you'll know it. If they don't like you, you'll know it. I feel more reassured when dating a woman who is older than me.

Even as I am typing this out, it is dawning on me that the reasons why I like older women are the exact same reasons why low value men dislike 30+ women. A low value man wants a woman who is emotionally immature because he is emotionally immature himself. Men who are predatory tend to want a woman who is unconfident and unsure of herself. They specifically want to interrupt the experimental phase of a young woman's life because they want to "train" her to be his ideal woman/servant. He wants a young girl who doesn't know what she wants because he wants to condition her into believing that what he wants is the only thing that matters. A woman with less life experience is more easily manipulated, controlled, and abused. A low value man wants to be able to exploit the instability in a 20-something year old woman's life, for his own benefit.

That's why low value men prefer women in their 20s, so that they can be the one to corrupt and traumatize her. They don't like women in their 30s because she's already been through all that and has learned that she doesn't have to put up with his bullshit.

It's also the reason why men love to push this narrative that women expire on their 30th birthday. It serves male interests in two ways: 1) It creates a sense of urgency to pressure young women to settle down ASAP, and 2) it cripples women's self worth when we see ourselves as a depreciating asset, leading us to lower our standards and tolerate poor treatment from men no matter our age.

I say FUCK that shit.

Ladies, if you are in your 20s, know that it's okay to take the time you need to figure things out. There is no need to feel anxious about the future. Life will get better as you get older, not worse. I promise. You are not a "depreciating asset" you are a human being: the older you get the more time you've had to level up physically and emotionally. Do not squander that time trying to mould yourself into the perfect bangmaid for some shitty man. Focus on yourself and on living your best possible life, with or without a man.

Ladies, if you are in your 30s, I want you to internalize the fact that you are beautiful, and that your beauty is based on more than just the number on your birth certificate. You don't need to make yourself smaller to please a man. You don't need to lower your standards just to "keep" a man. So long as you're putting in the work to be a high value woman inside and out, that's all that matters. You don't need the approval of low value men because their opinions are worthless. Focus on yourself and on living your best possible life, with or without a man.
 

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If women hit the wall at 30, the milf category wouldn’t exist. But they make a whole ass porn category dedicated to older women that are sexually arousing. Your assessment is totally accurate too. I’m not quite 30 yet but there’s definitely a switch from early 20s vs late 20s with dating at least for myself. Early 20s I was unsure of myself and really hadn’t learned what I liked and disliked in relationships as I was inexperienced. That made me prime to be “molded” which is just gross how men try to recruit inexperienced women and brainwash them into being their perfect woman with demeaning tactics. The bulk of my 20s was spent with an lvm. The experience taught me exactly what I want and don’t want. Fortunately I was able to attain independence financially and become so much more confident, at 28 vs 23. It seems like we all go through that one shitty relationship that totally converts us from being pick me doormats to having standards and taking no shit.

I wish I could update this 1000 times. I'm bi as well and find women in their 30s plus more attractive. I'm in my 30s and I know my worth. I know I'm attractive. My confidence sucked in my 20s and I was told once I get into m

y 30s I wouldn't give af. And it's true. I'm more attracted to people who know their worth and are secure in who they are. Only predators go after those who are vulnerable. That's why that one direction song about a beautiful insecure woman makes me sick to my stomach.

If there weren't plenty of women in their 30s who are objectively attractive to men, why do these women routinely get chased by men 10-15 years younger? Yes there are some stereotypes associated with this, but fact of the matter is that the men who say this are bitter that the women their age didn't want them when they were younger. That's it, that's the reason. Spurning them is their revenge for failing in their 20s.Nothing of value has been lost.

And as a fellow bi lady I've definitely noticed that WLW culture celebrates us aging in a way the broader (US) culture doesn't. Women just seem to have a more realistic and healthy view of each other, which doesn't surprise me at all.

My coworker is 50 (though she looks 40 on a bad day) and let me tell you, she has men from 25-60 figuratively lining up. She’s always dating a few people at once and she doesn’t even kiss these men. She usually ignores their texts most of the time and they just keep coming back. There is no wall.


If you look after your skin, teeth, feet, bones, brain, spine and cardiovascular fitness, you can push whatever imagined wall there is over onto the irrelevant LVM who raised it.

If you also look after your friendships, education, career and finances, you will maintain peak value your whole life.

I’m in my 40s and enjoying every moment of it, in every possible way.

Also let me just say : Gillian Anderson, Angela Bassett, Bérénice Marlohe, Shohreh Aghdashloo, Keri Russell, Yetide Badaki, Golshifteh Farahani, Freema Agyeman, Michelle Yeoh, Sarita Choudhury, Juliette Binoche, Danai Gurira and Sonoya Mizuno to name a few.

You don’t get to 30 and turn to dust. I promise. It’s arbitrary.

I always think ‘If being queer/ bisexual/ a lesbian was a ‘choice’, like all the homophobes ‘think’ it is, MANY women would choose to be attracted to other women’ & I WOULD.

One of my higher up managers is a lesbian; when I saw her & her wife (both in their 40s) just jaw dropping beautiful women, in love, charming and successful. Who wouldn’t choose that? tell me who!?
 

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I spent my teens & 20s HATING how I looked, having a very ‘unique’ face: very big cheekbones! As a gawky teenager having a skinny face with massive cheekbones when everyone else looked like English roses..ohwee does that do a number on you!

My nickname amongst my friends use to be ‘Hannibal’ due to having the same face structure as Mads Mikkelsen?!

Being 5’0 doesn’t help when everyone I know is 5’7 +.

Now at 33 I think I’ve grown into who I am by accepting I’m lucky to not look like ‘everybody else’ & have gratitude for what makes me different to many people in the society I live in and it doesn’t take much.

I’ve grown to like face (from what skin care addiction tell me, I have nice skin for my age and ‘great bone structure’ )

When I went to japan on a work trip ( & general meetings ) my petite-ness was an advantage as clients seem more receptive to me as I am considered ‘unimposing’ & ‘sweet’ from what the client feedbacks say, I may play up to it now and then?....all’s fair in business?!

Found wearing clothes from the petite section and getting clothes tailored, despite every year I tell myself I’ll buy a sewing machine so I can hem clothes but never get round to it !, has made such a difference to feeling more ‘grown up’ and put together.

Having a personality that enables me to be compassionate, respectful and to have the courage to not falter from my own convictions, perhaps that plays a part in a ‘big picture’ way.


This TED talk is hilarious and spits some facts about being attractive in a unique way being positive rather than a hindrance (even though I don’t online date it put it into perspective).

So in conclusion: my 30s has so far been of acceptance of my corporeal form & building & utilising on my personality & intelligence, that has gotten me further than my looks have, which has resulted in feeling a lot more attractive compared to my 20’s self.
 

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It's also the reason why men love to push this narrative that women expire on their 30th birthday. It serves male interests in two ways: 1) It creates a sense of urgency to pressure young women to settle down ASAP, and 2) it cripples women's self worth when we see ourselves as a depreciating asset, leading us to lower our standards and tolerate poor treatment from men no matter our age.
This hits hard. I remember seeing "it's over at 25!" on YouTube before *ncels, maybe during /V\GTOW's early days and, and I remember feeling like a depreciating asset after 21. I remember feeling like my time was running out and I had to find someone older who wouldn't get bored if me once I hit that age. It was stressful because it wouldn't be a guarantee of loyalty, as men 40 and up have dated women decades their junior in Hollywood (Leo Dicaprio). To make things worse, the beauty industry preaches things about "collagen production" and the "human body starts dying at this age." It is so messed up. My skin literally looks the same over the past 5-10 years because I take care of it. Women who suffer from acne in their teens/20s may find their acne gets better, or maybe their cheekbones are more poppin'. Mainstream dating advice and beauty industry scare tactics are shit. FDS is the only way, or else we will drive ourselves to feel crazy, desperate, and traumatized.

ETA: turning the "post-wall" age is also a bonus because it repels a good percentage of the overtly misogynistic men who exploit youth in partners.
 

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This is the absolute truth.

My social media accounts that give me yearly flashbacks have revealed my appearance, style and skills are vastly improving year on year.

For example, I had zero concept of skincare in my early twenties. I once thought it was a great idea to remove my dry skin with sellotape like budget waxing.

I used to believe anything feminine was less than. That fashion and makeup was pointless vanity.

Furthermore, it is rather telling that every actress playing a teenager or young adult is often in her thirties. It screwed up my expectations of ageing.
 

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I'm in my 20s and my LVM ex traumatized and aged me. So I don't look better than before i met him and I never will again. He stole my youth even though I was only with him for a year.

It's over for me. He aged me. He stressed me and stress ages you so I'm aged. He aged me. My face has less fat now and i have dynamic wrinkles under my eyes when I smile.

Premature aging caused by abuse can actually be reversed if you remove yourself from the abusive situation and take the time you need to heal before dating again.

I look 5 years younger now than compared to how I looked with my narc ex 2 years ago.

It is NOT over for you. If you're in your 20s you still have many more good years to come. It will get better, I promise.

Oh sis, no! You are sorely mistaken. How do I know that? Been there, to the letter! Except for me, the scrote drained me for almost a decade.

I was looking at myself in the mirror, and saw an old, spent crone. Dark circles around my eyes, crow feet, uneven skin tone, blemishes, deep forehead wrinkles. That’s what years of stress, anxiety and lack of sleep will do to you.

My self care journey started a little less than a year ago, and now I’m GLOWING. My face looks better than ever, I exercise regularly, so I’m FINALLY happy with my body (I have visible abs!!), I eat sooo much better. I levelled up mentally as well, and did all those things that I never would’ve done with my NVX. The best part? It was all so ducking easy! It all came naturally once the source of my suffering was cut out of my life.

Most importantly, I learned how to say no, and how to spot red flags properly, so I never ever put myself through that again.

Things will improve, I promise 🤗

omg this happened to me too. i had horrible crows feet in my early 20s (like, 20-22 years old). everyone pointed them out to me. start using the most powerful anti aging skincare you can afford, esp eye cream. like, the stuff they make for women much older than you. make sure you use it every day, twice a day. and be really mindful of the tiny little muscles in your face. there are soooo many tiny ones around our eyes especially. yoga helps with this a lot. we hold sooooo much tension in our face, and being in an abusive relationship 24/7 for years we quickly forget what a 'relaxed' face even feels like. perfect a resting bitch face. invest in de-puffers, retinols, and moisturizers (i love Strivectin) and stick to using them. i promise in a few years you will significantly soften your crows feet AND plump your mid-face back up.

also- drink a gallon of water every day and get 8 hours of sleep every night. being hydrated and well rested helps the appearance of wrinkly eyes immensely. i use a warm glow tinter or dark mode anytime i feel myself squinting to look at the screen on my phone/computer. and of course sunscreen. as you can see i do a lot to compensate for the youth that was stolen from me lol. but it works.
 
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