Beware of men who care about 'body count'

[Princess]

Beware of men who care about 'body count'

No matter how many people you've slept with (or not), consider it a red flag if a man shows too much interest in your 'number' or 'body count.' Why is this a red flag?

• These kind of LVM see women as objects that depreciate or lose 'value' depending on her number of sexual partners. Even if your number is low, you are still dealing with a man who dehumanizes and disrespects women, and make no mistake, he will dehumanize and disrespect you as well.
• They view sex as something that is innately degrading to women rather than something that builds mutual love and intimacy. They likely suffer from madonna/whore complex, and they see sex as something men do to women, something that gives men power over women. Do you really want to be your most vulnerable, sexual self with a man like that?
• They subscribe to this mentality for their own power and control. They seek to control women's behavior by slandering women whose behavior they disapprove of (despite engaging in that same behavior themselves, as demonstrated in the point below). They see you as a personal conquest and perceive your previous lovers as men who have already 'conquered' you, which is why they're so threatened by your 'number'. If you sleep with them, they will have less respect for you.
• These kind of men are almost always hypocrites. Like redpillers, these LVM will slander women for having numerous sexual partners while simultaneously trying to get in your pants on the first date. Can't have it both ways fellas.

Simply put, they are insecure misogynists who do not see women as real, complex humans, but rather as a hole whose value depends on a single solitary characteristic - number of sexual partners. I'm sure it's obvious by this point, but THIS IS NOT TRUE. Your value is inherent - YOU are the prize - and this mentality is the attempt of LVM to make you forget that.

HVM will show interest in your romantic history rather than your sexual history. They will want to know where your past relationships went wrong and how your previous partners treated you. They will not feel threatened by your sexual past because they are secure in themselves.

 

[Princess]

My ex husband lost respect for me after he found out my body count. We were only dating at this point and he asked me, and I thought, well I’m going to be honest, why would I be ashamed to tell him my number? I told him and he lost it. Said he didn’t know if he could be with someone with that high of a number. He was nearly 5 years younger than me, and then he had me trying to explain myself because he was doing that pulling away thing which was causing me so much stress. My dumbass still wanted him, still got engaged to him and still moved to the US to marry him. And I literally did the pikachu face when after all of that, he still treated me like shit right up until our divorce.

Oh, here’s an extra LVM story of him, I was wearing a choker necklace one day and he saw it on me and said, STRAIGHTFACED, that women who wear choker necklaces were Sluts. He wasn’t joking. He actually believed that. He also said I was going to hell if I didn’t go to church with him, and he said that my anxiety throughout our marriage was due to my guilt over being a terrible person (because of my high body count).

After our separation, he had me pay half of the apartment rent because he couldn’t afford it on his own after I moved out when he asked for the divorce while at the same time he had a trip to Portugal planned as a “divorce party” with his friend. He also had the nerve to tell me we were going to do a joint custody of my cat, the one I adopted and paid for and took care of during our marriage. He left for a month for Reserve training and I was moving my things out of the apartment when I came across the Itinerary for the Portugal trip and so I took his Xbox and had so much fun tormenting his LVM ass with it when he returned. I cackled when he said he would call the police on me for taking it He literally cried as if I had taken his child guys, that’s how big of a narcissist and LVM he was.

 

[Princess]

There was just a girl on the relationships sub yesterday who was consumed by guilt and shame over how her fiancé, right in the beginning of their relationship, was upset about the fact that she had slept with other people. Even tho he'd slept with others!! He said early on he "got over it" but I don't believe it bc OP was so stressed about this and felt she was less loveable bc she'd slept with others. She was like "oh I know it's different for men" It is not! Thankfully most of the comments told her this was bs, she should hold off on the wedding, and get herself into therapy.

I understand a man being wary of your body count if he is also a conservative man with a low body count and wants to make sure he's w/ someone who views sex the same way. But I feel like 9 times out of 10 that's not the case with the guys who ask, they're just assholes

I understand a man being wary of your body count if he is also a conservative man with a low body count and wants to make sure he's w/ someone who views sex the same way. But I feel like 9 times out of 10 that's not the case with the guys who ask, they're just assholes

Absolutely. In my experience 95% of men who care about body count are either hypocritical misogynists (the kind of guys who expect their wives to fill the caretaker role but don't want to fill the provider role) or weirdos/incels who are drowning in insecurity and low self-confidence.

As for the 5% who are non-hypocritical tradcons... well let's just say that I am not interested in any of these 3 types of men.

 

[Princess]

Before FDS I went on a pity-dinner with a coworker on Valentine’s Day. (Ugh, yes, I’m cringing too). We were friendly and neither of us had plans for Valentine’s Day. It was not a date, we agreed on that. But as soon as we were at the pub he started getting angry and snappy at me. ”You only see your boyfriend once a week since he lives in another state. You only get fucked once a week!”

Oh, how my internal feathers ruffled happily. Fuck this dude, metaphorically.

I explained that no, I get fucked multiple times a week by my FWBs. In fact, I continued, I get fucked so often that I cancelled my Delta Airlines credit card because I can fly anywhere on my big fat Dumbo-style pussylips.

”What if I think that makes you a whore?”

It felt so good. I said, Honey you’re not too witty, are you?! I’m a giant whore ON PURPOSE for ANYONE but YOU

He got fired the next week for getting drunk and no call/no show at work.

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I agree with FDS that you should not reveal the number or past sexual experiences. I don’t think you should lie unless he really presses you (but why is he pressing you?) vagueness is your friend.

I have seen multiple friend’s boyfriends get absolutely obsessed when they told them they had a threesome. Like one of them almost broke up with her over and it took him months to get over it. Another one was trying to coerce her into having one because I guess he felt “left out” of her wild days. My friends thought they were being honest and open but learned the hard way to be more reserved.

Never ever share this info with men. It will never end well for you or him. There’s no reason to tell them-it doesn’t matter what you did in the past.

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I don’t think you should lie unless he really presses you (but why is he pressing you?)

Exactly. IIRC the FDS handbook says to lie, but I would just dump a guy if kept pushing about it. The fact that he cares so much (and feels entitled to know in the first place) speaks to his values, and those are definitely not my values.

 

[Princess]

I said it before I'll say it again. Yes, men who worry about body count don't view women as human beings. Their most frequent analogy for women is that we are like cars. Newer model = younger woman, mileage = how many men a woman slept with, "Why would you buy a 97 Chevy with 300k miles on it?" They say it ALL THE TIME. lol. Then go rant about how they'd never invest in depreciating assets. So you are not really viewed as a partner, as a friend, as an equal. Nah, you are merely a belonging, the newer the better. Oh, and then they claim biOLoGy lmao. Yeah, where else do you see it in animal kingdom? What other species on Earth worry about female's body count or youth or how submissive she is to her partner? If anything males have to prove to females why they are worthy of breeding with, so tell me how this bs is not a fake patriarchal construct?

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They're only worried about the number of sex partners, not the number of times someone has had sex. I can count my sexual partners on one hand. But I have had sex hundreds of times. Wouldn't that still count as "high mileage?" Not in their dumb ass logic.

It's an insecurity thing with no basis in logic or common sense.

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That’s true. They call us used up and claim our vaginas are all stretched out from having multiple partners yet pay prostitutes for sex who have sex with several men a day. If anything they should not get any pleasure from a woman whos vagina supposed to be soooo stretched out they wouldn’t be able to feel anything. Just another lie men tell